{"id":5878,"date":"2023-07-11T13:14:45","date_gmt":"2023-07-11T18:14:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pugix.com\/synth\/?p=5878"},"modified":"2023-07-19T07:16:13","modified_gmt":"2023-07-19T12:16:13","slug":"bi-color-led-driver-circuits","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pugix.com\/synth\/bi-color-led-driver-circuits\/","title":{"rendered":"Bi-Color LED Driver Circuits"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Need to drive a bi-color LED in one of your DIY projects?  I needed some of these for the added LEDs in my Dual Benjolin project.  I had a circuit in mind, one used by Ken Stone (CGS) in his version of the Serge Smooth and Stepped Generator.  Here&#8217;s a version of that circuit, provided by J3RK in a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.modwiggler.com\/forum\/viewtopic.php?t=224675\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">discussion of LED driving<\/a> on the ModWiggler forum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"597\" data-attachment-id=\"5879\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/pugix.com\/synth\/bi-color-led-driver-circuits\/1931_bicolorleddriver_1\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/1931_bicolorleddriver_1.jpg?fit=1024%2C597&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1024,597\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"1931_bicolorleddriver_1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/1931_bicolorleddriver_1.jpg?fit=1024%2C597&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/1931_bicolorleddriver_1.jpg?resize=1024%2C597&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5879\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/1931_bicolorleddriver_1.jpg?w=1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/1931_bicolorleddriver_1.jpg?resize=500%2C292&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/1931_bicolorleddriver_1.jpg?resize=768%2C448&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/1931_bicolorleddriver_1.jpg?resize=220%2C128&amp;ssl=1 220w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/1931_bicolorleddriver_1.jpg?resize=250%2C146&amp;ssl=1 250w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/1931_bicolorleddriver_1.jpg?resize=355%2C207&amp;ssl=1 355w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/1931_bicolorleddriver_1.jpg?resize=730%2C426&amp;ssl=1 730w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/1931_bicolorleddriver_1.jpg?resize=90%2C52&amp;ssl=1 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I had gone to that MW discussion to ask if the 1K resistor on the input created a 1K load.  Not surprised to find that yes it does.  This circuit will work best if preceded by a direct op amp output.  But I needed a circuit with a higher impedance input load.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/mungo.com.au\/euro.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Mungo Enterprises<\/a> replied with the following schematics, the first with specific values and the second with formulas.  D1 and D2 in the following can be separate or combined two-lead LEDS.  The advantage of this circuit is the higher impedance input of 220K ohms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"343\" data-attachment-id=\"5880\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/pugix.com\/synth\/bi-color-led-driver-circuits\/led-driver\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver.png?fit=600%2C343&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"600,343\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"LED-Driver\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver.png?fit=600%2C343&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver.png?resize=600%2C343&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5880\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver.png?w=600&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver.png?resize=500%2C286&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver.png?resize=220%2C126&amp;ssl=1 220w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver.png?resize=250%2C143&amp;ssl=1 250w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver.png?resize=355%2C203&amp;ssl=1 355w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver.png?resize=90%2C51&amp;ssl=1 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"600\" height=\"376\" data-attachment-id=\"5881\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/pugix.com\/synth\/bi-color-led-driver-circuits\/led-driver-formula\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver-Formula.png?fit=600%2C376&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"600,376\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"LED-Driver-Formula\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver-Formula.png?fit=600%2C376&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver-Formula.png?resize=600%2C376&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5881\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver-Formula.png?w=600&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver-Formula.png?resize=500%2C313&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver-Formula.png?resize=220%2C138&amp;ssl=1 220w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver-Formula.png?resize=250%2C157&amp;ssl=1 250w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver-Formula.png?resize=355%2C222&amp;ssl=1 355w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/LED-Driver-Formula.png?resize=90%2C56&amp;ssl=1 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I set about breadboarding the Mungo design, looking for a maximum LED current of 20ma, which is the specification for the LEDs I used, Kingbright WP7113SRSGW, unfortunately obsolete.  I had bought some newer ones, Kingbright WP57EGW, but I preferred the red color of the former.  Here&#8217;s the circuit I ended up with to use in the Benjolin project.  I measured the maximum current through the LED to be 17ma with a 5 volt input.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"312\" data-attachment-id=\"5882\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/pugix.com\/synth\/bi-color-led-driver-circuits\/bicolor-led-driver\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/bicolor-LED-driver.jpeg?fit=640%2C312&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"640,312\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone XR&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1689081533&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;4.25&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;25&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0083333333333333&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"bicolor-LED-driver\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/bicolor-LED-driver.jpeg?fit=640%2C312&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/bicolor-LED-driver.jpeg?resize=640%2C312&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5882\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/bicolor-LED-driver.jpeg?w=640&amp;ssl=1 640w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/bicolor-LED-driver.jpeg?resize=500%2C244&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/bicolor-LED-driver.jpeg?resize=220%2C107&amp;ssl=1 220w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/bicolor-LED-driver.jpeg?resize=250%2C122&amp;ssl=1 250w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/bicolor-LED-driver.jpeg?resize=355%2C173&amp;ssl=1 355w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/bicolor-LED-driver.jpeg?resize=90%2C44&amp;ssl=1 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>This is the Mungo circuit with selected values.  Where he has 220K, I think that anything between 220K and 470K would work fine.  I used 390Ks simply because I had a lot of them.  Where he used a 10pf capacitor, I used 47pf.  Again, anything in that range would work.  And I used a 20K instead of 22K because I had a lot more 20Ks on hand.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As for the 330 ohm resistor, that&#8217;s the one to select to set the max LED current.  The lower the value, the more current.  A 1K value here might be better if the voltage being monitored can be patched in.  In my usage, the input voltages are limited to +\/- 4.5V.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Even though the Mungo design uses two more resistors, it saves having to add an additional op amp buffer in front to drive the 1K load.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Need to drive a bi-color LED in one of your DIY projects? I needed some of these for the added LEDs in my Dual Benjolin project. 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