{"id":4438,"date":"2021-09-08T09:51:21","date_gmt":"2021-09-08T14:51:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pugix.com\/synth\/?p=4438"},"modified":"2021-09-08T09:51:25","modified_gmt":"2021-09-08T14:51:25","slug":"experimental-vca-for-ciat-lonbarde","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pugix.com\/synth\/experimental-vca-for-ciat-lonbarde\/","title":{"rendered":"Experimental VCA for Ciat-Lonbarde"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" data-attachment-id=\"4440\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/pugix.com\/synth\/experimental-vca-for-ciat-lonbarde\/avdog-vca-circuit\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-circuit.jpeg?fit=640%2C480&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"640,480\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone XR&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1631022729&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;4.25&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;40&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0083333333333333&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"avdog-vca-circuit\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-circuit.jpeg?fit=640%2C480&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-circuit.jpeg?resize=640%2C480&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4440\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-circuit.jpeg?w=640&amp;ssl=1 640w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-circuit.jpeg?resize=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-circuit.jpeg?resize=220%2C165&amp;ssl=1 220w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-circuit.jpeg?resize=250%2C188&amp;ssl=1 250w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-circuit.jpeg?resize=355%2C266&amp;ssl=1 355w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-circuit.jpeg?resize=90%2C68&amp;ssl=1 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;ve built a Tetrazzi quad oscillator, a Quantussy quintuple modulator, a Roolz 5-6 dual LFO, and am about to built a Dubernator dual VCF.  All of these from PC boards donated to me by Josh Rodriquez.  Almost a complete system, it lacks VCAs.  Here is a possible Peter Blasser designed VCA (with a small modification by me).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I looked at a number of VCA circuits published by Peter B., including ones in the Cocoquantus input circuitry, the Plumbutter AVDog, and the Rollz-5 AVDog, plus the Eurorack Denum module.  The AVDog is a combination module, consisting of a VC oscillator, a low frequency pinged filter that generates an undulating envelope, and a dual VCA.  Like the VCA in Denum, AVDog has two outputs, with the sound going out only one or the other at a time.  I breadboarded one of the AVDog VCAs to examine how it works.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Findings<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>First, using one of the DIY Tetrazzi oscillator outputs as the signal to be modulated, I discovered that the maximum output was obtained at around 0.5 volts of CV, and the output became minimized at around +4 volts.  Well that was unexpected!  But not too surprising, because the CV driving it in the AVDog comes from the odd envelope generator and meant to work just as Peter intended.  I also saw that the maximum gain is about 0.6, which seems to be the result of a compromise between gain and distortion.  There is a bit of distortion, which can be noticed (in the video below) as a slight rounding of the tips of the triangle wave.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Voltage ranges<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Peter&#8217;s designs all use a single 9 volt power supply.  To obtain symmetry everything is biased at +4.5 volts, which Peter labels &#8216;Mido&#8217; (middle).  All DC-coupled outputs center on Mido, with an amplitude also of about 4.5 volts peak to peak.  So the minimum voltage is about 2.25 volts and the maximum about 6.75 volts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The external input to the AVDog VCA is AC-coupled to insure internal centering on Mido.  Likewise, the output is AC-coupled.  Thinking about how I would use this as a stand-alone module, I decided it would make a great two-quadrant multiplier for Mido-centered signals coming out of Tetrazzi and Quantussy.  But I wanted them to be DC-coupled so that LFOs can also be processed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve designed.  The signal and CV inputs both expect a voltage range of between +2.25 and +6.75 volts.  The output, also centered on Mido, will be the product of the two signals, with a maximum amplitude of about 2.7 volts peak-to-peak.  In order to get zero output at +2.25 volts and maximum output at +6.75 volts of CV, I had to design a simple gain and offset buffer to put in front of the AVDog VCA CV input.  The buffer is shown on the left side of the schematic diagram, below.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Schematic<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"420\" data-attachment-id=\"4442\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/pugix.com\/synth\/experimental-vca-for-ciat-lonbarde\/avdog-vca-schematic\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-schematic.jpeg?fit=640%2C420&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"640,420\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone XR&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1631025683&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;4.25&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;25&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0078740157480315&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"avdog-vca-schematic\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-schematic.jpeg?fit=640%2C420&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-schematic.jpeg?resize=640%2C420&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4442\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-schematic.jpeg?w=640&amp;ssl=1 640w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-schematic.jpeg?resize=500%2C328&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-schematic.jpeg?resize=220%2C144&amp;ssl=1 220w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-schematic.jpeg?resize=250%2C164&amp;ssl=1 250w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-schematic.jpeg?resize=355%2C233&amp;ssl=1 355w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-schematic.jpeg?resize=90%2C59&amp;ssl=1 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;m thinking about building a unit that contains two or four of these.  It would be very simple, with just input, CV, and output banana jacks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"420\" data-attachment-id=\"4444\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/pugix.com\/synth\/experimental-vca-for-ciat-lonbarde\/avdog-vca-test-connections\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-test-connections.jpeg?fit=640%2C420&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"640,420\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone XR&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1631022741&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;4.25&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;80&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.016666666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"avdog-vca-test-connections\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-test-connections.jpeg?fit=640%2C420&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-test-connections.jpeg?resize=640%2C420&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4444\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-test-connections.jpeg?w=640&amp;ssl=1 640w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-test-connections.jpeg?resize=500%2C328&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-test-connections.jpeg?resize=220%2C144&amp;ssl=1 220w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-test-connections.jpeg?resize=250%2C164&amp;ssl=1 250w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-test-connections.jpeg?resize=355%2C233&amp;ssl=1 355w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-test-connections.jpeg?resize=90%2C59&amp;ssl=1 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><figcaption>Test setup<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"393\" data-attachment-id=\"4445\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/pugix.com\/synth\/experimental-vca-for-ciat-lonbarde\/avdog-vca-scope\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-scope.jpeg?fit=640%2C393&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"640,393\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone XR&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1631022713&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;4.25&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;320&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.016666666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"avdog-vca-scope\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-scope.jpeg?fit=640%2C393&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-scope.jpeg?resize=640%2C393&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4445\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-scope.jpeg?w=640&amp;ssl=1 640w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-scope.jpeg?resize=500%2C307&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-scope.jpeg?resize=220%2C135&amp;ssl=1 220w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-scope.jpeg?resize=250%2C154&amp;ssl=1 250w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-scope.jpeg?resize=355%2C218&amp;ssl=1 355w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/pugix.com\/synth\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/avdog-vca-scope.jpeg?resize=90%2C55&amp;ssl=1 90w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><figcaption>Scope image showing input and output signal<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Video Demo<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>The video shows the setup I used to test it.  I took triangle waves from the DIY Quantussy to use as the signal and the CV.  The point is to see and hear the amplitude modulation.  Don&#8217;t be confused by the pitch jumping around; that&#8217;s just how the Quantussy works.  What&#8217;s interesting is that the VCA circuit performs an enveloping function at LFO rates, as well as interesting amplitude modulation at audio rate on the CV input.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-embed-handler wp-block-embed-embed-handler wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/7txnbcs_onQ?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox\"><\/iframe><\/span>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve built a Tetrazzi quad oscillator, a Quantussy quintuple modulator, a Roolz 5-6 dual LFO, and am about to built a Dubernator dual VCF. All of these from PC boards &#8230; <a class=\"styledbutton\" href=\"https:\/\/pugix.com\/synth\/experimental-vca-for-ciat-lonbarde\/\">Read More<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":4440,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[14],"tags":[122,71,21],"class_list":["post-4438","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-projects","tag-ciat-lonbarde","tag-diy","tag-vca"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Experimental VCA for Ciat-Lonbarde - Richard Brewster&#039;s Electronic Sounds<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/pugix.com\/synth\/experimental-vca-for-ciat-lonbarde\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Experimental VCA for Ciat-Lonbarde - Richard Brewster&#039;s Electronic Sounds\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"I&#8217;ve built a Tetrazzi quad oscillator, a Quantussy quintuple modulator, a Roolz 5-6 dual LFO, and am about to built a Dubernator dual VCF. 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